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Ep 112: When God Runs Your Business - What Happens? (Part 1)
"Do you know any company owners who view their businesses as a vehicle for extending the kingdom of God? Today we talk with Catherine Wilberton, of Patterson's Water & Plumbing, Plays On Word’s Original “PlayMaker”!"
Catherine Wilberton, owner of Patterson's Water and Plumbing, takes us behind the curtain of what it means to truly operate a business as a ministry. As the first monthly supporter of Plays on Word Theater, she shares wisdom gained from decades of entrepreneurship guided by prayer and biblical principles. "I think I'm just the manager of God's business," Catherine explains, revealing how this perspective shapes every aspect of her company. Rather than seeing profits as merely personal gain, she views her business as a vehicle for Kingdom causes — supporting ministries, providing for her family, and allowing time for relationships and personal pursuits like beekeeping.
Catherine delivers eye-opening insights about water filtration that most consumers never consider. Did you know the water absorbed through your skin during a hot shower could potentially be more harmful than unfiltered drinking water? She explains how chlorinated municipal water, while necessary for killing bacteria, can create carcinogenic byproducts when interacting with organic matter in pipes. This education-first approach exemplifies how Catherine prioritizes customer welfare over mere sales. The conversation reveals fascinating connections between business and ministry. When Catherine supports Plays on Word financially, those resources translate into performances that have led people to commit their lives to Christ. When Pastor Teddy performs "The PETE Play," even young children become captivated by biblical stories they might otherwise never encounter. This beautiful cycle demonstrates how Christian entrepreneurship creates ripple effects far beyond business transactions.
What might happen if more business owners adopted Catherine's philosophy that "businesses should tithe"? Her example challenges listeners to reconsider their own approach to work, finances, and ministry support. Whether you're an entrepreneur, employee, or ministry leader, this conversation offers fresh perspectives on integrating faith with every aspect of life and business.
PlayMakers: Patterson's Water & Plumbing: https://pattersonsqualitywater.com/
Patterson's Gives Back: https://pattersonsqualitywater.com/about-us/we-support
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Speaker 2:He's the best. Look at you, look what you've done. I don't know why I'm always so surprised, because he always does it, he always comes through. Why am I always so surprised? So now, what I'm doing is I'm thanking him. So I have my prayer requests and I'm thanking him for doing it, even though I don't see it done yet. But I know he's always working and I don't know how he's going to do it, but I'm thanking him and because then I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 3:You're the only thing, you're the only thing, you're the only thing.
Speaker 4:Hello and welcome to Plays on Word Radio, where we discuss, analyze, work and play on the Word of God. Thank you for joining us on this excursion. Today let's join Pastor Teddy, also known as Fred David Kenny Jr, the founder of Plays on Word Theater, as he does a deep dive into the Word of God.
Speaker 2:Catherine Wilberton, larry and I joke because we're the Wilbertons from Hamilton- oh well, hey, okay. Sounds fancy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's fancy stuff I know doesn't it yeah Wow.
Speaker 3:So we want to welcome you to Plays on Word Radio. It's been a long time coming. This is for those of you guys listening that don't know. Catherine is probably our first supporter, I think. I mean she's literally the first official monthly supporter to Plays on Word. The person that saw, she understood the vision and she could see and she had faith in what the Lord was doing through us and 2019,. I think yeah, yeah, and we've known her longer than that. But sure have, yeah, and you guys were my kids' youth group leaders.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, that's right, yeah, when they were little kids 35 now.
Speaker 1:Babies that are now having babies that are now having babies Exactly.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that Because they used to chase me, those guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they used to chase me. Yeah, they just had one of the twins. Just had a baby three weeks ago.
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, those little boys getting you in trouble downstairs at Pastor Joe's church, poor Pastor Joe, I mean.
Speaker 3:Pastor Joe Gratzel. He was going cuckoo, he was just. We were driving him nuts because I would have the kids. The kids would mob me and just chase me all around and we would run around and I know I'm pretty sure I'd be willing to bet that some of the elders there were giving him the side eye like uh, you know, uh, joe, you bring this guy in, you're in time out more than they were.
Speaker 3:I definitely, and you know something, wherever we have gone, that's seems to be the mo. That's the mo. That's what happens, seems I don't know. The kids just rile them up and give them back, that's it. Oh, definitely, here, have some Jolt Cola.
Speaker 1:The kids always had fun and they always knew they were loved. Yes, yes. Wow, that's it.
Speaker 3:So we go way back, that's 2005.
Speaker 2:I was just going to say you guys just got married, Yep.
Speaker 3:Right, we were young, now I'm old, I feel old. But yes, we were young, now I'm old, I feel old. But yes, but yes. Katherine is the first person that really said I'm gonna, I want to be a monthly uh supporter and just help, push you guys out and do the madness that you do, and I want to really help and like we are here right now. We owe you a thanks because of the things we've been able to do and the lives we've been able to touch and impact. Even this past weekend, we just did our Pete play, which you've seen a few times.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I love that play. You saw the original of it, yeah, but we did that at a Christian coffee house in North Carolina and there was a little kid that was up front and he was I don't know how would you describe him Katie. He was trying to help me.
Speaker 3:He was just overly excited. He didn't know what was going on. But he decided that he was going to start interjecting in the play. And so I'm doing the play and I'm praying. I'm like Lord, what do I do about this kid? He started, he's really being a distraction. I can see other people looking at him and he's distracting. And then the Lord, I guess, got a hold of him and of course I pray.
Speaker 3:While I'm doing the play, I have conversations with God. So I had a conversation with God while I'm doing the play and the Lord calmed him down and locked him in and I don't think he said another word for the rest of the play. He was just locked in and Katie showed me a picture and he was on the edge of his seat, literally on the edge of his seat, to the point where I forgot about him. But we were able to go and minister to not just kids but adults. I had an elderly woman came up to me and she was just so grateful and so thankful. She said, oh, thank you so much. Oh, that meant so much to me, thank you so much. She was so, so thankful for it and you know you have played a direct role in that. So I'm basically, and everybody who has supported I'm just I'm passing on this information because it's not they're thanking me, but they're also thanking you guys.
Speaker 1:We always like to ask too you know what is it? We know that you've seen the plays. And what is it about the ministry that compelled you to support it and to support for so long?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, your plays are Sunday school lessons brought to life, right, it's just like all those Sunday school lessons I remember growing up with and then being the Sunday school teacher and teaching them, and you guys just brought it to life and like that little boy in the front row, captivated, because you're telling a story story, a true story, and you're bringing it to life.
Speaker 2:And sometimes we just read the bible and it's, you know, no offense. But sometimes we're like you know, like sometimes you can't picture everything else and like, like the pete play, like what peter was actually going through and uh, in his mind and and putting, you put us there in in the plays, you put us right there and that's what's so cool about it. And it just, you know it, for the people, um, that don't get it. They never read the bible, right, you know you're reading them, you are the, the Bible, you're reading them, you are the Bible to them. You're reading them the Bible through a story. And I think that's great, because then people are like what happened after that? What's the rest of the story? So it compels them to open up the Bible and read the rest of the story.
Speaker 3:Amen.
Speaker 2:At least I think it does.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, no doubt You're right. We've had people actually give us testimony about that. They're like I can't wait to go back and read and I can't wait to continue reading and get into my word. I think that's for me, that's part of the. That's the measurement of success is someone's life being turned around and someone getting into the word. And the funny thing is that a lot of people will nod their head when Pete says hey, you guys were there, you remember the story. And people remember the story because maybe from Sunday school or they've heard it in church or they read it some of these stories and they've been through them and so in some way, shape or form, they are familiar with the story, as if like, yeah, I remember that, yeah, I was there, I was kind of there, and so it helps to adds to the whole experience.
Speaker 1:You know that I wanted to point out too. There's I was actually looking at some of the photos from that particular performance you're talking about with that young boy, and there's a point in the play and and um, I've taken a picture of you pointing up to the ceiling, up to the air, you know, up to the sky, and everybody else is looking at you, but he's looking in the direction where you're pointing.
Speaker 1:Oh, he was in it you know, and he was, so he was in it. But but I mean that's a point to the, the fact where you're pointing, oh, he was in it and he was in it. But I mean that's a point to the fact that you do you captivate people. For what? An hour and a half, but overall you're pointing them to Christ and that's why people want to go back and read and get into the story. So we have them for a brief moment. But it's not about us, it's about the lord.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you do your job well well.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much. We've had a bunch of people that have committed their life to the lord at these events and you played it.
Speaker 4:You played a direct role in that know that you.
Speaker 3:Your name is on that, uh, plaque that the lord has for us. You know people involved.
Speaker 2:Well, it's not me, it's God, it's just God, amen.
Speaker 3:So some of you guys listening are probably familiar with Catherine and don't even know it. If you listen to the Bridge FM in New Jersey, you've heard commercials for Patterson's Quality Water and plumbing. And oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yes, Well, we rebranded about a year and a half ago. Now we're Patterson's Water and Plumbing. It's funny, we started out in I don't know 1975. My dad was Patterson's Plumbing and Heating.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And then in 1980, some guy at a church this is actually a good story Some guy at a church we were going to had a small water treatment company. And I don't know if you ever met my dad. He's a big man. He's smaller now I don't know why we get smaller when we get older but you know, he was like six something and 280 pounds. He's a big, burly man and it was tough for him to get under sinks and crawl spaces. So, um, this guy at church was selling a small water treatment company. So my dad bought it. It was just some equipment and a database and he changed from patterson's water and plumbing to patterson's quality water.
Speaker 2:Long story short, I took over and, um, we just rebranded back. But about I guess it's about 10 years ago, I went on a mission trip to Guatemala with a bunch of teenagers and one of the young girls there I was talking to her mom. It turns out it was this young girl's grandfather who my dad bought the business from. Wow, so when I see him, I I have met him since he would go to the same church. I never realized it was him and I said I, I'm in business because of you and because your interaction with my dad so many years ago. Like there's so many mouths that this business feeds. You know so many families that have been involved in building this business up and it's kind of neat. You know just kind of neat small world stuff yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:That's most likely not an accident or coincidence. I I think the good lord had a had a hand in that. That's really cool, yeah yeah, it's neat yeah that is awesome. So, yeah, we uh, you know we've a long time sponsor at the bridge as well. We hear the commercials for Patterson's quality water and plumbing. So it's safe to say you guys are a Christian-owned business. There are Speaking to the owner that is a Christian.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So if anybody is in the New Jersey area, we'll put a link for the website and you'll be able to contact Catherine. I will tell you this the absolute best water filter I ever had in my life and I'm I don't want to say I'm OCD, but I am kind of OCD about clean water, you know and the best water filter I ever had in my life was one of the filters that, Billy, let us try. I think I owe you, I think I still owe you for it.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was Put it this way. I put a whole house filter system at my house and it was a basic, you know, home Depot whole house filter and I was using the charcoal filter that they supply and it was decent. But Billy said no, no, no, no, no, try this one. And it matched up perfectly. It was the exact same size. It was. I think it was blue, though, and I could tell it worked better. You can tell when you get in the shower, yeah, and just everything coffee, everything that was there was just. Uh, it was a night and day difference. And here I was getting the decent one from home depot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so tell us a little bit about, uh, about the business. What, what do you guys do? I mean, do do if I have mud water in my coming out of my faucet, so can you help me out?
Speaker 2:Sure can yeah.
Speaker 3:First, we'll make you a mud pie. Why is it even important to have clean water coming out of here?
Speaker 2:You know why. You know it's funny. So many people don't even have clean water. We take water for granted here in the United States. So many people have to walk miles and miles for water and we turn on our faucet and we've got clean water, yeah, boom, yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like on city water, people take that for granted. City water is clean water, but then you've got the chlorine coming through and that's that's what you had over at BRIC and Billy gave you this. You know, carbon filter on steroids, you know to make a big difference. So you got to be more concerned about the water that is going on your body than that's going in your body if you're on municipal water, because you can drink that water till the cows come home and it's not going to do as much damage as one 10 minute hot shower where your cores are taking it in and your lungs are taking it in and that's actually more dangerous than drinking it. So cause, when you drink it, your body's filtering it out. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, we do a water. Obviously, water treatment, that's like a niche industry under the plumbing umbrella and now we've introduced, you know, a whole plumbing division where we, you know, fix clogged drains and leaky pipes and replace hot water tanks and all that.
Speaker 2:So it's it's been, it's been fun. We got a great team, we've got a great culture. It's really. I'm really blessed. I am really really blessed. God has answered so many prayers in that business that I prayed decades ago and God has answered them. And it's just that persistency.
Speaker 2:There's been plenty of times when, you know, I was sweating buckets and wondering when God's going to come through, but you know, he always has a plan, and when I look back I'm like, oh, look at you, look at you, look what you've done. I don't know why I'm always so surprised, because he always does it, he always comes through. Why am I always so surprised? So now what I'm doing is I'm thanking him. So I have my prayer requests and I'm thanking him for doing it, even though I don't see it done yet, but I know he's always working and I don't know how he's going to do it, but I'm thanking him.
Speaker 3:An attitude of gratitude, yes, thankfulness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because then I know it's going to happen.
Speaker 3:I hope everybody listening can hear that this is a business owner that is talking about faith and incorporating the Lord in her business. That's just a rarity. You don't hear that a lot. I'm sure there are business owners that are full of faith and everything but the Lord being incorporated in the business is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1:So some of the points that you were talking about about that clean water and specifically about the shower, and I really didn't think about that. I feel like a lot of people don't know this right. A lot of people don't know it. How do you get people to know?
Speaker 3:There's a follow-up question as far as what, what are you finding like toxins and stuff like that?
Speaker 2:but answer the first question so townships chlorinate the water they have to, otherwise we'd all have heebie-jeebies you know, like that's a good thing, chlorine is a good thing.
Speaker 2:And then there's organic matter growing in the pipes and you know, just junk, you know. And that's not a bad thing either. But when the two hang out together it's a real bad marriage. And trihalomethanes, which is disinfection byproducts, is the byproduct of disinfection, can form. It doesn't mean it's going to form, but there's a chance it can form and that is the carcinogen. That's the culprit. It's the two of them together merge. That's the culprit. It's funny. New Jersey 101.5, remember that radio station?
Speaker 2:Had some guy their regular guy in the morning talking, and somebody called me up this is a couple of years ago and says oh, you got to call in. They're talking about the water issue in New Jersey. You got to call in. So I think I was on hold for like an hour and a half waiting for my time. I had like two minutes not even two minutes to talk and I and that's what I said you're so worried about the quality of the water that you're drinking and there's so many easy fixes. You know you have people that live in apartments that can't have a system installed. You know you can. First of all, a Brita filter. I'm all about that, that's just carbon. A refrigerator filter it's just carbon. Carbon's wonderful, so use that to drink the water. And then your shower head. You could get it for 30 to 60 bucks on Amazon a replaceable shower head that has a filter in there. It's so world of difference.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the world of difference. You don't have to have the whole house system installed just and you replace it every four to six months. Right, you'll feel it in the water when it needs to be replaced. I'm more. Change it before you feel it. Um, just get on a schedule, but it's so. That's what we just want to educate people. Whether they use us or not, we don't care, because god always provides. We just want to be that education to people about what's in their water and easy things that they can do like. There's no reason anybody shouldn't have some kind of filtration in their house because it's cheap enough.
Speaker 3:The skin is the largest organ. It sure is For the body. It actually takes things in, it absorbs.
Speaker 2:And most people shower with clothes off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right, yeah, so there's no filtration With hot water.
Speaker 3:So your pores are opening up and potentially carcinogens and other problems. I know there was. It was on the ballot down here in North Carolina. There was a I don't want to say a referendum, but somebody was running and their whole campaign was let's fix the water, let's get clean water, vote for clean water. And I was like, oh, I need to get Catherine down here because I don't know what's going on down here. And I have the fridge filter and the Brita filter and the Brita filter and something happened to that. It had like an electric thing on it that would tell you when it was overdue. And you can tell my gut can actually tell when the filter's starting to go because it starts to let stuff through that it probably shouldn't. And I'm like, oh, I don't feel so good, I just drank a bunch of water. It's not like I'm drinking mold or anything, but you can tell the difference.
Speaker 2:You get used to yeah, you get used to your water and when you drink water that you can smell and taste the chlorine. It's just so objectionable.
Speaker 3:Not good and I I know that my old doctor in Bricktown he used to have on his wall. He had on the wall the different municipalities that actually put the fluoride in the water Fluoride. But there was a whole bunch of other towns that did put a lot. I think it was Bobby Kennedy was talking about it saying that we don't need to fluorinate the water because you're getting enough from your toothpaste. We're over fluoriding people and that's not a good thing either.
Speaker 2:That's not good at all that causes all kinds of issues.
Speaker 2:So just to have a consciousness of of water, it's not so you're saying it's just as important to have a, to have either the whole house filter or a shower filter a shower filter absolutely yeah, yeah, not just think you're good to go because you have a fridge filter yeah, yeah, I would actually direct people, if they only had 100 hundred bucks, to spend dude in the shower first, really, just yeah, absolutely yeah, and deal with the drinking the water, but that, yeah, that's more important than the water you're drinking I know, it sounds goofy, really this is goofy but it's more important to protect the biggest organ of your body.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know something? I know that. I know some people that believe that it was the is either the chlorine or the fluoride. Something in the water was causing skin rashes for them. They got the whole house filter and the rashes and stuff started going away. I think I think people are saturated with stuff like why can't we just have h2o? Remember?
Speaker 2:drinking out of the garden hose yeah, it has interesting taste, but um I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was, don't think it was going to kill us. So, yeah, we're going to put a, we will put a link. This is kind of an infomercial for patterson's plumbing and quality water. Did I get that right?
Speaker 2:patterson's water and plumbing water and plumbing that's Patterson's Water, and Plumbing Water and Plumbing.
Speaker 3:That's it, patterson's Water and Plumbing. After being such a longtime supporter of Plays on Word, it's the least we can do is let other people know that you are even out there. If they just call you, what do you do? Do you come out and test the water, or do you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll come out, we'll test the water. We do free plumbing assessments, yeah, plumbing assessments, yeah. We just give a lot, lots of information, yeah, lots of information, um, and then we just uh, inform them on the best decision for their water and, if they have plumbing issues, for their plumbing, because water directly affects your plumbing too.
Speaker 3:if you've got water issues, sometimes you got plumbing issues too, because your plumbing system how about hard waters, a situation where you get calcium, or what is a build up of uh, minerals and calcium build up inside the pipes.
Speaker 2:It causes dry skin, dry hair. Well, it um. Clogs pipes, yes.
Speaker 3:Clogs valves, yeah I had that problem early on in my house and it, uh, it caused a great deal of grief with my boiler and, yeah, even my hot water tank. Yes, the every it just I was like what's going on and come to find out that I had that calcium build up, and so I wish I would have known to call you then.
Speaker 1:So just in thinking about Catherine. You've always had such an entrepreneurial spirit about you and you know I love you as a sister in Christ and I've always been impressed with your business approach to kind of life and I just wanted to know, do you want to talk a little bit about? You know your thoughts of you're probably one of the businesses that I've seen that gives back so much to different ministries and charities, and I remember talking to you one time about it and you just have this philosophy of wanting to. You're in business, yes, but you want to take part of that and be able to give back. And I just thought you know maybe you'd like to expound on that a little bit.
Speaker 2:You know, when you say it's my business, I think I'm just the manager of God's business. Like, I think it's God's business and he's just put me in charge of these wonderful people and the money that comes in and the money that goes out. So I just pray all the time for wisdom on where that money goes in and out. And yeah, I mean I'm making a living personally and everybody's paid and my vendors are paid and yeah, I just feel like businesses should tithe. You know, I think that's biblical. Some people say, no, you know, like the person, the owner, should tithe, but I think businesses should tithe, because what are we in business for if not kingdom causes? A friend said that once. Like that it's all about kingdom causes and to me the business is just a vehicle. It's a vehicle for lots of things.
Speaker 2:You know, I got a big family and these grandkids and all this joy in my life, so the business is a vehicle for me to, you know, spend more time with them. You know I'm not, I'm not punching a clock, I'm home right now, which is nice, and you know, the business is just a vehicle for me to kind of do the things I want to do in life. I'm a beekeeper and I have time to do that and a gardener and you know my new marriage. But it's also a vehicle to do things for God. You know to lean into that and help these ministries. You know that. You know there's a lot of ministries. They such talent like you guys and they just need funding. God didn't give me any talent. I can barely tie my shoes.
Speaker 3:Well, your attitude and your approach has had a direct impact on a multitude of people Just through the Place. On Word ministry alone. You've been able to—and we are extremely grateful for that, for what you've done—.
Speaker 2:I'm grateful for you guys.
Speaker 3:Listening to the Lord and just allowing that. And for those of you guys that don't know, on our banjo song video we had one of the celebrities in that song. In that video is Catherine's grandson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, chandler.
Speaker 3:He's going to be 12 this year. Oh, my goodness, wow, amazing. He plays Teddy Jr, basically the younger version version of me. It's the banjo song, or I've got a love maybe we'll link that too well, yeah, we'll put the link up there. You'll get a chance to see him. I think he's. I think did he just lose a tooth at the time or something, or?
Speaker 2:something like that yeah since then he's cut all his hair off. He doesn't have all that crazy hair anymore.
Speaker 3:So he's a celebrity of that, uh, of that of that video. We're grateful that you loaned him to us for that. Now I have a question, though you you mentioned beekeeping, so yeah, yeah, let me put a pin in that for a second. I had a question, another question about the business what is your radius of working? Because there are people listening to this probably all over the place. How far do you go?
Speaker 2:We go about an hour. So it's Ocean, monmouth, burlington, mercer, a little bit of Middlesex, a little bit of Atlantic counties, so Central Jersey.
Speaker 3:I would say Central Jersey.
Speaker 2:We cover all that area.
Speaker 3:And if someone had a question about water in general, they could probably call us. Just give us a call.
Speaker 2:They can call the office. We've got great educated people. If they need more information, just say can I talk to Catherine about this?
Speaker 3:Amen, maybe they're in California or something, and they're like hey, North Carolina. Hey, yeah, North Carolina. Hey, can I get a shower, one of those shower filters that you were talking about? I'll pay extra.
Speaker 2:So it's funny. We have a lot of customers who move out of state and they call us for advice, like when they're ready to buy a water treatment system. They're like, all right, this is the quote I got. Can you look it over? Can you tell? Tell me if I need this? This is my water test results. So it's yeah. Yeah, we're, just like I said, here to educate.
Speaker 3:I think we might have to take her business national. I think we're just going to have to buy her a fleet after this episode, because she's probably going to have people Want to get more busy. She's going to have people calling from California. Hey, can I get that filter?
Speaker 1:That's funny. You know, I think this is important because I love, as a Christian, I love to see who the other Christian business owners and what other businesses are Christian-based or have a Christian background, because, you know, first and foremost, we always pray for you anyway. But I want to be able to pray for those businesses and I want to be able to support, if I can, in any way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I bet you the apostle Paul, no doubt the apostle Paul would be down with the idea of supporting other Christian owned businesses that are better run by the brothers and sisters that are, you know, supporting them, because he understood that by supporting them you're supporting them, You're supporting ministry. You know he was a tent maker himself, and so people that needed tents in Corinth or Ephesus, you know they should go to Paul or Aquila and Priscilla to get the tents. It just makes sense there you go.
Speaker 2:One supports the other.
Speaker 3:Amen, you know so I like the mentality of that.
Speaker 4:Thank you. This program was made possible by the Plays on Word family of supporters. To find out more, check out our website at playsonwordorg.
