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Ep 76: Faith, Relationships, and the Power of New Beginnings (Part 2)
"Can ancient rituals reveal the ultimate sacrifice? Pastor Dan Shunk joins us and discusses the Old Testament sacrifices', highlighting their role as visual parables pointing to Jesus Christ."
Can ancient rituals hold the key to understanding the ultimate sacrifice? Pastor Dan Shunk from Calvary Chapel Chambersburg joins us in unraveling the profound significance of Old Testament sacrifices and their powerful role as visual parables pointing to Jesus Christ. We explore how these early symbols of faith transitioned to the real presence of Christ, emphasizing the completeness of His redemptive work. Vivid analogies, such as a wartime wife carrying a photo of her husband, bring these concepts to life, highlighting the shift from shadow to substance in our understanding of salvation.
Embark on a personal journey of spiritual growth and discovery as we delve into the unique path that led to a deeper understanding of ministry. Through experiences in Maine with Bible churches and Calvary Chapels, we uncover themes of humility, patience, and the challenges of balancing pride and the desire to teach. The story parallels Moses' journey, reflecting on the impact of doctrinal beliefs on personal growth and the significant life changes that ultimately led to a move back to Pennsylvania. Seeking guidance from spiritual mentors and overcoming self-doubt, we realize a calling to serve in a new community despite personal baggage and past limitations.
Relationships and grace take center stage as we discuss the spiritual journey of walking with the Lord while united with a spouse. We reflect on the role of a godly partner in supporting and challenging us, especially during difficult times. Addressing the feelings of disqualification that believers who have experienced divorce may face, we emphasize that God's grace is greater than any past failures. Drawing inspiration from biblical figures like Philip, Elijah, and Abraham, we highlight the importance of trusting God's guidance through daily actions. Additionally, the Plays on Word ministry's unique impact in communicating Scripture's timeless relevance is showcased, reinforcing the power of faith-driven choices and new beginnings.
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Speaker 2:That you bring, but you do it in such a way that the gospel is so clear, the word of God that you weave throughout every part of it, is so clear that all of the elders love it because they know it's ringing true. This has the ring of God's word. They're hearing God's word and so you're connecting with everybody. How many ministries do you know that connect with the five-year-olds and the 80-year-olds? All of them. And you're doing that with Plays on Word, your name, your name, your name.
Speaker 3:Hello and welcome to Plays on Word Radio, where we discuss, analyze, work and play on the Word of God. Thank you for joining us on this excursion. Today. Let's join Pastor Teddy, also known as Fred David Kenny Jr, the founder of Plays on. Word Theater, as he does a deep dive into the Word of God.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, Thank you very much. Josh Taylor and Katie Kenny, Welcome to you. Plays on Word Radio people. We are going to continue with Dan Shunk from Chambersburg.
Speaker 2:You know, these things are all shadows, but the substance is of Christ and that's what they've always been there for. You know, I actually the other day we were going through Hebrews right now, on Sundays, and I actually kind of reminded our folks. I split the difference and I said, look, remember the thing that saved somebody in the Old Testament in the time period of the Mosaic Law? The thing that saved them was not the sacrifice, it wasn't the lamb. We were splitting the difference down Because some people could bring a lamb and they had the heart to believe. It's because I need this innocent sacrifice. Exactly, I need this innocent sacrifice and this is a picture of what I need. God is perfect and I'm a sinner and I need an innocent sacrifice. And we split the difference to make the point.
Speaker 2:These Old Testament rituals, that's not what saved you, it's the faith. Believing. This is what I need. The Old Testament is filled with visual parables yeah, just like Christ told, audible parables, and these are visual parables, but it's always been about the faith of the heart. Abraham believed God and it was accounted unto him for righteousness.
Speaker 1:I told the church one time and I lifted this from my buddy, pastor Cliff. He told a story about this lady and I'm probably butchering the story, but this lady who I guess it was during World War II, she just got married, had a young husband and he got drafted or whatever and he went off to fight but she had like an eight by 10 photo of him, black and white, that was blown up. That was eight by 10. And she put it in her purse or pocketbook and carried it with her everywhere she went. She'd go to the supermarket, that thing was sticking out, purse or pocketbook and carried it with her everywhere she went. She'd go to the supermarket, that thing was sticking out. She wouldn't leave the house without that thing. Everywhere she went, that picture of her husband went with her. But when her husband came back from the war that picture got put up on the mantle, put away because the substance that that picture pointed to had arrived. There was no need to carry the photo of her husband around because she had her husband with her.
Speaker 1:And the Old Testament is very much that photo of the substance. It's that picture type coming. But when the perfect comes, that's him. When he shows up. Hey, in the New Testament, man John the Baptist is here, here he is, here he is, and that's why John the Lamb of God, right the.
Speaker 1:Lamb of God, that's why John? Was the greatest from Jesus' mouth. That's why John was greater than all the other prophets, because all the prophets said he's coming, he's coming, he's coming. John said here he is Right.
Speaker 2:That's right. I think I said Corinthians earlier. It was Colossians. It's Colossians, chapter two. They both start with C, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly.
Speaker 2:Right, you know all of these things of meat and drink and holy days and new moons and of the Sabbaths, they are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ. You know a lot of people. When I was in the military for a long time before the Lord called to full-time ministry and when we often would go away for long periods of time, whether overseas and things like that, they offered a service where they could make what they called a flat daddy and they made this giant six-foot foam board cutout and they took your picture and they put it on this life size. But it was flat, it was on foam board.
Speaker 2:And they give it to your family and so while you're gone, you're deployed, your family has this flat daddy and they can stand it up in the living room. They'd give you another one that's about two feet tall so you could put it in the dining room chair, you know, and so they would the, you know, little kids would always have daddy while he's gone. But but you know, the day I came home you know I came home I remember getting with my kids after being gone for a long time, that thing goes away. Yeah right, they don't keep the flat daddy after the real one comes home amen, amen, amen to that gone.
Speaker 2:All right, how insulted would I be had they still like put the the flat daddy all around the house.
Speaker 1:You know hey you know that I mean I, I think about, I think about from god's perspective. After the blood of christ was shed. You know they continue to offer sacrifices at the temple. For what?
Speaker 2:30, 40 years you know, somebody had to sew up that veil. That's what I'm saying, right what right?
Speaker 1:six inches thick, and and, and they would still bring that. What? What an offense to god to bring the blood of bulls and goats when the blood of christ had been had been shed, and and they didn't. They didn't even recognize it. They didn't understand. I mean, that is an abomination. It became an abomination that caused desolation. When did the Lord let you know? Okay, hey, I'm calling you right now. You got to come out and start. You need to start a work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, boy, that's you know, and I think you know a little bit about that too. As far as your own call, it's different for everybody, right? And that's what's so neat, is you know? I'm going to say something about the end of the story and then I'll tell you the story. But I remember when I first got back down here and it was after the Lord had already clearly confirmed a call to do this no-transcript be a time you're going to doubt what the Lord did and that this is his will for your life, and that's always stuck with me. And so you know I'm in Maine, for it was 20 years.
Speaker 2:I stayed in Maine for a long time really growing. Everything's changing, everything is changing, and this actually has a little bit to do with some other spiritual background for me. I was involved with a lot of people in the group of churches called Bible churches and an interesting kind of paradox in a way, that the Lord used my connection with them at some Bible churches Although I never lost touch of Calvary Chapel, staying involved and even traveling doing men's conferences and apologetics events for Calvary Chapels in Maine, I was involved with the one Bible church for a long time and, in an interesting way the Lord used that not only to grow me see other perspectives. Way the Lord used that not only to grow me see other perspectives, but also to really help raise my kids as well. And it's interesting because my call to the ministry really is a lot like Moses in this way. I know, immediately after I was saved, I remember believing, thinking I think the Lord wants to use me. I think my whole life growing up. I remember, you know, if you'd asked me growing up when I was a kid, when I was a heathen, if you'd asked me, what do you want to do when you grow up, my answer was I don't know what I want to do, but I want to be so good at it that I can teach it. That was always my answer. But I didn't want to be a high school teacher. But I knew I loved like I would tutor people on math in school and in college. I loved helping other people teaching like that, and so it's an interesting combination.
Speaker 2:But, like Moses, when I first get saved I start thinking okay, well, here I go, I'm going to start teaching everybody and I'm 26, 27, brand new Christian for a year or two and it ain't working out. I still got pride that needs killed. I got stuff that needs to happen. I'm out there trying to kill Egyptians, like Moses, and it ain't happening. And it took me a year or two before I really realized this ain't working. I need to back off. I don't know what's going wrong. At the time that's what I'm thinking. I don't know what's going wrong, but maybe I am not called to teach the Bible, and just little things here and there that I was trying to teach and do, and little studies and Sunday schools and things you know, and so in a way, in a way, the Lord had me run away to the desert like Moses, and what I mean by that was that he had me involved in Bible churches.
Speaker 2:There was a lot of growth, a lot of changing, but one of the distinctives in a Bible church is they believe that somebody that's been divorced is not eligible, uh, to be a pastor and that kind of things, and not that they ever, you know, beat me over the head with this or anything. But that was, that was something that was said, was was thought and, for whatever reason, the lord had me not even look into that myself. I was so busy just learning the Bible and growing and just trying to raise a family and, lord, I want them to be believers. Help me to know your word. I'm just diving in right. It was almost like there wasn't time to go back and think about this particular doctrine. 15 years, I'm growing, I'm doing stuff with Calvary's, I'm in this Bible church, I'm doing things and life's changing. And then, when physical circumstances started to change in Maine, there was some things that had tied me to the state of Maine. My military job and other family considerations kept me in Maine. And then, in 2018, every single consideration that was keeping me in Maine disappeared. Actually, the government, america changed a law that said you know, if you're doing a civilian job for the National Guard, you're no longer tied to your state. I mean, there was big things that changed that made it so that I was no longer required to be in the state of Maine. So, for the first time in 15 years, we were open. We were.
Speaker 2:It was possible for my wife and I, joy, to move back to Pennsylvania, and so we start looking into it like, well, maybe this is the Lord's will. I mean, when we first got married all those years before, we thought we were going to move back to Pennsylvania. But, like Moses and Zipporah in the desert, we just gave up on that, like, well, it's not working, it's not the Lord's will. And here all all of a sudden, in a moment, everything changes, that we're eligible in all ways to move back. And so we just start praying about it, like, okay, lord, do you want us to move back? And then we're considering Joy's mom and that she's going to need some care in Pennsylvania, and so all these things are coming up like, wow, this is your will to move, right, right. So we're convinced to move back to Pennsylvania and I start talking to people about I want to know the spiritual conditions here in Chambersburg, pa, where I'm moving back to and I'm calling churches.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to find anybody that's preaching chapter by chapter, book by book, and nobody is doing expository teaching. Can't find anybody, and so I go to. I'm talking to Ken Graves in Bangor and I'm like Ken, how do I find the guys, because I know there's no Calvary in chambersburg. How do I? But, ken, how do I find the guys that are interested in this, that are that are looking at a bible study or a church plan, or how do I? How do I get going? I said ken, how do I, how do I find the guys?
Speaker 2:and ken says you ever think maybe you're the guy except he said it yeah. I can hear him say that and my response right, right, and I remember saying no man, I got baggage. And just like that, ken's like don't we all? Amen, and what. I'm thinking in my head is like no, I got this doctrinal consideration. They're like I don't think I'm eligible, kind of.
Speaker 3:Not that I've really looked into it.
Speaker 2:And so that set me on a course to look into that. And you know I'll spare you all the doctrine, but I'll just give you one little highlight to this. For me this subject was just as simple as look. You know, sometimes you actually need to get a little geeky-greaky and you can actually solve a problem, and this is one of them. This is one of them. This is one of them.
Speaker 2:You know, when you read in the pastoral epistles about Paul saying that an elder must be the husband of one wife, he uses the word Mia. Mia just means singular, it just means one, whereas Paul had at his disposal other words that he's used plenty like the word proto, which means the first, first right, and he didn't choose to do that. He chose to use the word Mia for singular wife. And the Lord began to work on my heart with that particular doctrine, showing me that, no, no, no, I am eligible. I'm starting to call around, I start to talk to some different people. Actually, ken told me to get a hold of Joe Foch out to Philly and, just, you know, get to know the area down here a little bit so I can find the other Calvary guys around. And in the process of doing that. This was kind of the silver bullet. I was waiting to hear back from Calvary Philly. I pull up their website and I just go to the most recent message and it wasn't Joe Foch's message. It wasn't Mike Foch's message, it wasn't even an elder or a pastor at Calvary Philly at all.
Speaker 2:Their most recent message on their website was from David Guzik. You might know that name. He's obviously a Calvary pastor from California and so I just start listening to his message that he just gave at Calvary Philly and the message was called what's your Calling? It was a 10-point outline of the Apostle Paul's call into the ministry and it was so fascinating because I was praying for all these weeks Lord, where are the expositional teachers? Where are the chapter by chapter guys? And I pull up David's message and David Guzak gives this introduction and he says in his introduction listen, he says there's a lot more to our Christianity than Bible study and chapter by chapter study. And I was shocked. This is his opening remark. I'm like what in the world.
Speaker 3:Is he going even?
Speaker 2:say, and he goes on. He says you know, there's a lot more to our Christianity. There's fellowship, there's evangelism, there's service in the church and out of the church. But then he says you can't do any of it correctly or completely unless you know the whole word of God. And I was like man, that's it and it just reinforced my heart's desire that that's what this world needs.
Speaker 2:We need to know the word of God, or you can't do anything else properly or completely. And then he goes on and he gives this 10-point outline of Paul's call into the ministry. And that was it. That was the silver bullet. I sat there in tears being convicted and convinced that that was the Lord telling me to do this and to start this.
Speaker 1:Isn't that something the Lord engineered? That and the way he works is a symphony. It's an incredible symphony man of different parts that boom, just all work together.
Speaker 2:I had to go to my wife that night and I said to Joy, I said I said, Zipporah, I know I told you I'd never go back to Egypt or I'd never would be called into the ministry. But I'm telling you, Joy, the Lord just called me to the ministry and God love her. She just said I believe you, Amen, Amen. And that was a bit of a shock for both of us and, just to know, the Lord gave her such a peace about all that.
Speaker 1:Well, there's the key right there. That's the icing on the cake confirmation. Because I had a similar situation with Katie and the Lord worked on her and made her confirm the call to do what we're doing, where there's no way she would have she would have confirmed it before. She would be like no, no, wait, hold on, wait, a second Timeout, hold on, wait. Have you thought this through? And she was just like yeah, I'm with, I'm, I, he's speaking, he spoke to me about this, so I don't like thank you, I'd like to, you know, right, but uh, yeah, so okay. So I didn't mean to cut you off. Yeah, I agree with you that that was?
Speaker 2:that's awesome, man. No, you didn't, that was just. It was such a blessing at the end of this. You know it's one thing to know you're called to the Lord, but you know we're in a one flesh union with our spouse and and it's such a neat thing when you watch the Lord take these big steps with you and you just got this godly woman that is right there walking beside you, beating you up when you need to get beaten up, and just supporting and just saying I agree or I love you when it's hard or when it's not going right or when it's good.
Speaker 1:It's really important for people to hear this too, because there are many, many believers that I know personally that have been through divorce and have been, you know, just had a marriage fail and there many of them have felt maybe disqualified or or felt like, uh, you know, this is a, this is something that's holding me back from you know, this is a black mark on my walk with the Lord or whatever, and I unfortunately unfortunately, I know some Christian couples that have gone through that divorce. But I love how you went to the Greek and could see the distinction. You know, paul, if Paul, in order to be part of the Sanhedrin, you had to be married and, I believe, over the age of 30 or 40. And he cast his vote with Stephen. He basically cast his vote. Most commentators believe that means that he was part of the Sanhedrin. We don't know what happened to his wife. Some people think maybe she said I can't do this, maybe she ended up leaving him, I don't know, or she?
Speaker 2:died 1 Corinthians 7, right 1 Corinthians 7, he wills that men would be in the state that he's in, and it seems to indicate that he was single at that point.
Speaker 1:He was single, so something happened to his wife. We don't know, you know, but the Lord used him. I guess I was going to say how would you encourage somebody who's maybe the enemy's beaten them up because they've been through divorce? But I think of some people in my life that have had powerful testimonies and powerful work that the Lord has used mightily, powerful testimonies and powerful work that the Lord has used mightily, even though they've been through an awful situation of divorce, which is just awful in both parties. It's just awful all the way around. But the Lord still his grace supersedes that Right.
Speaker 2:And the first thing I would say and I think it's so important is to realize that the Lord is not asking us to fix yesterday if you can't fix it. I mean there is restitution, and there is an occasion where somebody needs to go fix something from yesterday. I get it, but in most situations there's no further activity that can happen about yesterday. The Lord also doesn't want us to live in tomorrow. Sometimes we get so trapped with what might happen that we don't take the action the Lord's telling us to take. We have to live with today, and this is what I mean. There is an ideal the scripture lays out here are the principles, the principles of the Word of God. This is the ideal. This is the right way to do it. The Lord's never going to give us second best. This is the ideal. Go for it. Go for it Right. But the grace of God is there to say you have to do today. If you don't have ideal today, if you don't have the ideal marriage today, if you don't have the ideal relationship with your boss today, you can't change that in a day. You live for today, you do what God's calling you to today, you do what's right today and it's a walk of faith. It's a daily walk of faith. You know, I've talked to so many people that have decades worth of, you know, self-inflicted spiritual wounds. You know just shooting themselves in the foot all the time, and they've got decades of this right. How do you fix this? Very often you don't fix it.
Speaker 2:In a day you say today I am going to honor God. Where I'm at today, I'm going to honor God. I'm going to make the choices today that God wants me to make. If you're in a situation where you know too many people I know are in a situation where they're apart from their wife, okay, honor God today. If you need to win her back, go win her back. Show grace. If she doesn't want to be won back, still live godly around her and everyone else. I can't stress that enough that the Lord is saying to us today do today Whatever he's calling you to today. You have to do that. He's never going to give you the next step of faith if you're not doing this one. There. Action that needs to be happened, that needs to take place, and we need to do it. Don't ignore it, or why would he give us more?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, we were looking at uh philip and how the uh said the lord spoke through an angel to him, said I want you to go down to down to gaza. And he was right in the middle of the revival in samaria, you know, he's right, smack in the middle of it, peter and john came up, laid hands on people, people are all. The holy spirit fell on. You know, the samaritans are coming to christ and god says go down, go down to gaza. It's a desert place, that's all he got, man and he and he followed and he did. And then he sees the chariot with the, with the eunuch, you know, and the Lord says go up to that chariot. And the bottom line is the Lord gave him enough light for one step and as he was faithful to that step, the Lord gave him another step. And I think, like you said earlier, this is a Christian walk. It is not a destination from point A to point Z, it is a walk which requires steps. Yeah, you think of Elijah right, look at Elijah's life.
Speaker 2:Right, he was led to a place knowing that it wasn't going to sustain him forever. Okay, so it runs out. Okay, the Lord leads him to the next place. And that has to be okay in our lives If you get involved with something and the Lord changes your path and says okay, I used that for a season, now we're going over here. Okay, you look in the Hebrews, chapter 11, hall of faith.
Speaker 2:You look at how many of these people were willing to go to places they knew nothing about. You know, you read about Abraham and it says how, truly, if they had been mindful of the country from where they came from, they would have had the opportunity to return. But they desired a better country, a heavenly country where the Lord is not ashamed to be called their God. And they were willing to go places they knew nothing about because they knew something about it. They knew God was going to be there and God was going to sustain them. And I just think that's what's so important, that's what should enable us to take action today is to realize that if I'm going to go into a new place, a new season, a new relationship, a new job, a new whatever, I'll do it because I know God's going to be there, and that's all that we need is to know that the Lord will be there.
Speaker 1:When we first came out I think you guys were it was a pretty fresh plant at the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, awesome.
Speaker 1:We loved it, though I mean it was. It was such a blessed time for us to meet the whole family out there. Hey, and I still have my, my military coin that you, that you gave me. Are you going to make the with the new logo on it too?
Speaker 2:oh, we gotta get some new, are you?
Speaker 1:gonna get some new ones. I mean that yeah, that's close to my heart man, that that military people, when they give you a military coin, that that means something. That's they. You know, that's really important and I'm like, okay, but they got a new name, now what's yeah, I kind of took that from my military background.
Speaker 2:You know, in the military we have challenge coins, uh, for the different units or different, uh highing leaders and things like that, and so we made a Calvary Community Chambersburg coin back in the day when we first got going. And so right now that we're officially Calvary Chapel Chambersburg, we need to do that, we need to get some fresh challenge coins. I'm going to say right here and right now, we're going to get the new ones made, and when we do, you're going to get the first one.
Speaker 1:Oh man.
Speaker 3:There it is Amen, amen Praise.
Speaker 2:God. You were our first ministry to come in back in the day doing your plays on words, spicing it up, giving people the gospel, teaching these kids the plays in such a way that they are excited to read the word themselves. And so you were there in the beginning for us, so you're going to get the first one.
Speaker 1:Amen. That was fantastic. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:Now listen. One of the best things I love about your ministry, though with Plays on Word, is that it really does connect to all ages, all types of people. You've got the kids that just love the visuals and the energy that you bring, but you do it in such a way that the gospel is so clear, the word of God that you weave throughout every part of it, is so clear that all of the elders love it because they know it's ringing true. This has the ring of God's word. They're hearing God's word, and so you're connecting with everybody. How many ministries do you know that connect with the five-year-olds and the 80-year-olds? All of them. And you're doing that with Plays on Word.
Speaker 1:Well, I can't really take any credit for that, because the Bible does that. The scriptures are enough for a kid to just play in and deeper than any theologian could ever get to the bottom of. I forget who said that. It was one of them old dudes. He said that it's like a pool that a child can wade in and have no problem. You know the, the scripture, the gospel, and, but yet it's so deep that theologians can't get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that that's the beauty of the, that's the beauty of the word man. The beauty because it's alive, it's a, it's a live subject matter.
Speaker 2:It's different than any other anything else right, that's the milk and the meat of the word, but it's also the gift that keeps on giving because it's alive, and so that's the manna.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, amen, amen. Somebody came up to me oh, you brought the scriptures to life and I was like, well time out, it's already alive. Man, what are you talking about? I didn't bring it to life. I can take no credit for that. All I'm doing is letting the word of God live through me and use this fool for Christ. Yeah, man.
Speaker 2:So God's been good to us in Chambersburg. I mean, you know we've been just over four years, four and a half years, and you know the Lord taught us all the lessons about don't be ashamed of the days of small things. Let the Lord grow you. If there's two people there, then minister to those two All the things our Pastor Chuck used to teach us. Don't worry about the people you don't have. Minister to the people, you do have All those lessons. We've been through all those lessons and it is a blessing now to watch the church grow and change. We just had a big summer fellowship picnic in that and we had just a ton of people out to the park. You know, and it's just so neat now to see really in the last six, eight months this, really things are very much changed and we sat with 20 some people for a couple of years and now we're, you know, triple or quadruple that all the time, and so it's just neat to see. Now I'm so much more focused on the people that are there. It's not a task, it's not a Bible study. It's people that need ministered to and grow and to grow in the Lord. And one of the I'll tell you one of the quick testimonies of what the Lord's, how the Lord's changed me in the first, you know, four and a half years of this work of the Lord in Chambersburg. I remember when I first started almost feeling bummed out that there was so much ministry coming my way for people that would never be able to don the doors of Calvary Chapel, chambersburg. People would call from other states that would need ministered to or people within our fellowship would have a family member from some other state that really needed help and guidance and I remember the Lord having to really bust me on that and say like listen, what did I call you to? I didn't call you to build just Calvary Chapel Chambersburg. I called you to pastor, to shepherd sheep, to feed the flock, and whoever he sends my way, I'm going to make sure they get ministered to. And I remember the Lord really changing my heart on that and just being convinced that if I bring somebody your way that's because they need ministered to. And I've just really, once you settle into that, this idea that God wants you to minister to people. It's not about the particular work that you think you're trying to do, it's about whoever the Lord brings your way and I'm just really blessed that. The Lord taught me that lesson. You know, there may be a day where I can't minister to all of the other ones that call it, but you know what Guess what they're still going to get ministered to. I'm going to make sure somebody can minister to them if I can't in a day that I might be too busy. But the Lord's really changed my heart that there's nothing to do with building a building at all. It's all about every single soul that you come in.
Speaker 2:Here's another example. This is really interesting. One of these examples it just happened last year. There was a lady in our church. She said you know, my daughter is really going through a hard time in South Carolina. Could you call her, can you please minister to her? And I did, picked up the phone, gave her a call, talked to her two times, two different times I think. Actually, also gave her some contact information for a lady in our church who was able to keep up with her a little bit and minister to her through a very difficult situation. And I'm just thinking to myself here we go again, lord, just one more person that we're spending all this time with you know, and we'll never see them. But at that time I had my heart right, you know, and I'm just doing it. I'm just doing it, just serving the Lord, wouldn't you know? This lady in her 20s, the Lord has her move and she came up here, she moved up here and now she's been in our church ever since. And so just the irony, the irony right.
Speaker 1:Well, years ago complaining Lord, I got to minister to all these people I'm never going to get to see, and here's when it actually moved up here. Amen. Thank you very much, my brother Dan Shunk, and everybody at Calvary, jamersburg. Hey, until next week, guys. The Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you.
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